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Comments from Rec.Martial-Arts:From: "Posthumandude" <posthumandude@aol.comremove> Subject: Drilling with your dog? Date: Friday, August 22, 2003 8:20 PM Who here practices grappling with their dog? Mines is a corgi that loves to play, I wanna find a way for his playfulness to help my training. GreenDistantStar wrote: > "Chas" <c.clements@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:McGdnZ1K_vpWatuiU-KYgw@comcast.com... > >>"Posthumandude" <posthumandude@aol.comremove> wrote >>>Who here practices grappling with their dog? Mines is a corgi that loves >>to play, I wanna find a way for his playfulness to help my training. >>great fun; good training. >>I set rules for myself so the dog has a chance; they don't like joint > locks > >>much and I'm worried to hurt them, No fist blows; light slaps and pushes- >>nothing they don't like. >>If I press, and they get scared, I back off till it's fun for them again. >>Wonderful stuff- > > > Yeah, ditto Chas. Dogs (like many animals) see play as a form of predator > behaviour. Cats particularly - they have no sense of humour about > play-fighting. Mine is the best. We do a modified grappling drill where kitty attempts to pass hand-guard and gain elbow-biting access. Of course, my mutant cat has 6 extra toes, sleeps in the sink, and fetches almost anything you can throw, so I dunno about other cats. Queso > > Hustlin' with a game pooch can be hours of exhausting fun for both of you. > "El Queso" <""the_cheese_23\"@(nospam)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:EUR1b.4882$n94.1468@fed1read04... > Mine is the best. We do a modified grappling drill where kitty attempts > to pass hand-guard and gain elbow-biting access. Of course, my mutant > cat has 6 extra toes, sleeps in the sink, and fetches almost anything > you can throw, so I dunno about other cats. > Queso I have two boy cats. They grapple....have the slipperiest hips...it's usually whack whack, whack with a paw, go the throat then take pussy-guard on the way to getting the back. One species in our house has been watchin' too many instructional tapes........... <posted & mailed> El Queso wrote: > Chas wrote: >> "Posthumandude" <posthumandude@aol.comremove> wrote >> >>>Who here practices grappling with their dog? Mines is a corgi that loves >> >> to >> >>>play, I wanna find a way for his playfulness to help my training. >> >> >> great fun; good training. >> I set rules for myself so the dog has a chance; they don't like joint >> locks much and I'm worried to hurt them, No fist blows; light slaps and >> pushes- nothing they don't like. > > Reminds me of a time I was in a teacher's backyard. We were practicing > some kicks (warming up) and my teacher's gigantic Great Dane charged in > front of me. I kicked that dog SO hard in the ribs... As I started to > retract my kick in worry - I saw Horse's (the dog) reaction - he was > happy and wanted to play more. Fuggin scarey. He probably didn't even > think I was playing rough. > Queso > >> If I press, and they get scared, I back off till it's fun for them again. >> Wonderful stuff- >> >> -- >> Chas >> 'It's Fighting, not Folkdancing!' >> http://www.chasclements.com >> http://www.kuntaosilat.net >> http://www.kuntaosilat.com/silatknifefighting.htm >> >> <Snip> Well I think we've established here that grappling is the best defense against a dog Please put the axe down, it was a joke. >Ive done so.Just remember to reverse the kneebar.Their hind legs bend the >wrong way. >Gi Fuck bill, I meant positioning, things like that. You're just asking for an expensive trip to the vet. kirks_bitch@operamail.com <kirks_bitch@operamail.com> wrote: >posthumandude@aol.comremove (Posthumandude) wrote in message >> Who here practices grappling with their dog? Mines is a corgi that loves to >> play, I wanna find a way for his playfulness to help my training. > >Corgi? Those little dogs the Queen Of England keeps? Corgis are vicious little bastards, anyway. Dogs and horses; the general rule is that the smaller ones are meaner. -- Rob. http://www.mis.coventry.ac.uk/~mtx014/ "Posthumandude" <posthumandude@aol.comremove> wrote in message news:20030822222038.07045.00000240@mb-m26.aol.com... > Who here practices grappling with their dog? Mines is a corgi that loves to > play, I wanna find a way for his playfulness to help my training. All the time. Nothing like a 130 pound Mastiff coming at you to tune up your reflexes. Fraser > > Or a 180 pound boerboel (South African bred for size & strength)... ;> Had a look at them on google. They look exactly like a cross between my two dogs. They are kinda bull mastiff looking. I want to get a Fila Mastiff for my next dog but can't find anyone in Australia who breeds them. : ( Oh well my dogs should have a few more years in them. The three year old mastiff is still convinced he is a puppy. Fraser > If you google images on 'boerboel', you get some good pics. The > puppies look adorable. Seems like they're good with children, > too, given the family portraits... > > -B > -- > baj7d@virginia.edu Most big protective dogs are. Mastiffs genetically protect the female of the house. Our mastiff follows my wife around the house from room to room. If we are walking the dogs and we stop to talk to someone the mastiff instinctively will stand between my wife and the person she is talking to. They are great dogs. Fraser hal@nospam.com wrote: > On 23 Aug 2003 02:20:38 GMT, posthumandude@aol.comremove > (Posthumandude) wrote: > >>Who here practices grappling with their dog? Mines is a corgi that loves to >>play, I wanna find a way for his playfulness to help my training. > > Drilling your dog? Now that's really sick. > > Oh, wait, you meant. . . nevermind. Projecting again, Hal? ;-) -- Dan Winsor Tortelvis for Governor of California! On 23 Aug 2003 02:20:38 GMT, posthumandude@aol.comremove (Posthumandude) wrote: >Who here practices grappling with their dog? Mines is a corgi that loves to >play, I wanna find a way for his playfulness to help my training. Drilling your dog? Now that's really sick. Oh, wait, you meant. . . nevermind. Hal -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- In article <3f4cd4f5$0$23613$5a62ac22@freenews.iinet.net.au>, Fraser Johnston <fraser@jcis.com.au> wrote: >> >> Or a 180 pound boerboel (South African bred for size & strength)... ;> > >Had a look at them on google. They look exactly like a cross between my two >dogs. They are kinda bull mastiff looking. I want to get a Fila Mastiff >for my next dog but can't find anyone in Australia who breeds them. : ( Oh >well my dogs should have a few more years in them. The three year old >mastiff is still convinced he is a puppy. > >Fraser If you google images on 'boerboel', you get some good pics. The puppies look adorable. Seems like they're good with children, too, given the family portraits... -B -- baj7d@virginia.edu Fraser Johnston wrote: > > "Posthumandude" <posthumandude@aol.comremove> wrote in message > news:20030822222038.07045.00000240@mb-m26.aol.com... >> Who here practices grappling with their dog? Mines is a corgi that loves > to >> play, I wanna find a way for his playfulness to help my training. > > All the time. Nothing like a 130 pound Mastiff coming at you to tune up > your reflexes. > > Fraser Or a 180 pound boerboel (South African bred for size & strength)... ;> "Robert Low" <mtx014@linux.services.coventry.ac.uk> wrote in message news:biaee5$gm9$2@sunbeam.coventry.ac.uk... > > kirks_bitch@operamail.com <kirks_bitch@operamail.com> wrote: > >posthumandude@aol.comremove (Posthumandude) wrote in message > >> Who here practices grappling with their dog? Mines is a corgi that loves to > >> play, I wanna find a way for his playfulness to help my training. > > > >Corgi? Those little dogs the Queen Of England keeps? > > Corgis are vicious little bastards, anyway. Dogs and horses; > the general rule is that the smaller ones are meaner. Sort of works with people too :-) posthumandude@aol.comremove (Posthumandude) wrote in message news:<20030822222038.07045.00000240@mb-m26.aol.com>... > Who here practices grappling with their dog? Mines is a corgi that loves to > play, I wanna find a way for his playfulness to help my training. Corgi? Those little dogs the Queen Of England keeps? I wrestled twice with a Great Dane cross. Weighs abt 140 lbs. Just working flow. Take back mount, dog tries to bite, jump into 3/4 mount, gently sweep out the "arms" ala against turtle, take mount. Dog struggles, let dog up. Go to guard, work sweeps, triangles (dogs bite, so be sure you...urm..."protect the boys". Pretty easy really - hook one arm under their collar and push their jaw upwards with balde of hand). Afterwards, be sure to pat the dog and give it some food. * (*tries to avoid the "still respect you in the morning" joke) >(Posthumandude) > >Who here practices grappling with their dog? Mines is a corgi that loves to >play, I wanna find a way for his playfulness to help my training. Ive done so.Just remember to reverse the kneebar.Their hind legs bend the wrong way. Gi In article <LQR1b.4878$n94.3738@fed1read04>, El Queso <the_cheese_23@yahoo.com> wrote: > >Reminds me of a time I was in a teacher's backyard. We were practicing >some kicks (warming up) and my teacher's gigantic Great Dane charged in >front of me. I kicked that dog SO hard in the ribs... As I started to >retract my kick in worry - I saw Horse's (the dog) reaction - he was >happy and wanted to play more. Fuggin scarey. He probably didn't even >think I was playing rough. Big dogs usually like a bit of roughhousing. Ever played with an Irish Wolfhound? Huge shaggy monsters, sweet as anything. -- Leif Kjønnøy, Geek of a Few Trades. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk Disclaimer: Do not try this at home. Void where prohibited by law. Batteries not included. Chas wrote: > "Posthumandude" <posthumandude@aol.comremove> wrote > >>Who here practices grappling with their dog? Mines is a corgi that loves > > to > >>play, I wanna find a way for his playfulness to help my training. > > > great fun; good training. > I set rules for myself so the dog has a chance; they don't like joint locks > much and I'm worried to hurt them, No fist blows; light slaps and pushes- > nothing they don't like. Reminds me of a time I was in a teacher's backyard. We were practicing some kicks (warming up) and my teacher's gigantic Great Dane charged in front of me. I kicked that dog SO hard in the ribs... As I started to retract my kick in worry - I saw Horse's (the dog) reaction - he was happy and wanted to play more. Fuggin scarey. He probably didn't even think I was playing rough. Queso > If I press, and they get scared, I back off till it's fun for them again. > Wonderful stuff- > > -- > Chas > 'It's Fighting, not Folkdancing!' > http://www.chasclements.com > http://www.kuntaosilat.net > http://www.kuntaosilat.com/silatknifefighting.htm > > El Queso wrote: > GreenDistantStar wrote: >> "Chas" <c.clements@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:McGdnZ1K_vpWatuiU-KYgw@comcast.com... >> >>>"Posthumandude" <posthumandude@aol.comremove> wrote >>> >>>>Who here practices grappling with their dog? Mines is a corgi that loves >>> >>>to >>> >>>>play, I wanna find a way for his playfulness to help my training. >>> >>>great fun; good training. >>>I set rules for myself so the dog has a chance; they don't like joint >> >> locks >> >>>much and I'm worried to hurt them, No fist blows; light slaps and pushes- >>>nothing they don't like. >>>If I press, and they get scared, I back off till it's fun for them again. >>>Wonderful stuff- >> >> >> Yeah, ditto Chas. Dogs (like many animals) see play as a form of predator >> behaviour. Cats particularly - they have no sense of humour about >> play-fighting. > > Mine is the best. We do a modified grappling drill where kitty attempts > to pass hand-guard and gain elbow-biting access. Of course, my mutant > cat has 6 extra toes, sleeps in the sink, and fetches almost anything > you can throw, so I dunno about other cats. > Queso > >> >> Hustlin' with a game pooch can be hours of exhausting fun for both of >> you. >> whole lotta animal abuse goin' on. On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 09:02:16 GMT, "GreenDistantStar" <GreenDistantStar@bigpond.com> wrote: >> "Posthumandude" <posthumandude@aol.comremove> wrote >> > Who here practices grappling with their dog? Mines is a corgi that loves >> to >> > play, I wanna find a way for his playfulness to help my training. >"Chas" <c.clements@comcast.net> wrote in message >> great fun; good training. >> I set rules for myself so the dog has a chance; they don't like joint >locks >> much and I'm worried to hurt them, No fist blows; light slaps and pushes- >> nothing they don't like. >> If I press, and they get scared, I back off till it's fun for them again. >> Wonderful stuff- >Yeah, ditto Chas. Dogs (like many animals) see play as a form of predator >behaviour. Cats particularly - they have no sense of humour about >play-fighting. > Hustlin' with a game pooch can be hours of exhausting fun for both of you. I grapple with my 100lb Golden. We both play fight all the time even though my wife yells at us to stop rough housing. It's a natural thing for dogs to do and it's play for them. We'll both grapple, play bite etc. Then usually we'll lay on the floor and snooze while the wife watches Dr. Phil afterwards. Dougie® http://fatehfightclub.tripod.com/fateh.html "Chas" <c.clements@comcast.net> wrote in message news:McGdnZ1K_vpWatuiU-KYgw@comcast.com... > "Posthumandude" <posthumandude@aol.comremove> wrote > > Who here practices grappling with their dog? Mines is a corgi that loves > to > > play, I wanna find a way for his playfulness to help my training. > > great fun; good training. > I set rules for myself so the dog has a chance; they don't like joint locks > much and I'm worried to hurt them, No fist blows; light slaps and pushes- > nothing they don't like. > If I press, and they get scared, I back off till it's fun for them again. > Wonderful stuff- Yeah, ditto Chas. Dogs (like many animals) see play as a form of predator behaviour. Cats particularly - they have no sense of humour about play-fighting. Hustlin' with a game pooch can be hours of exhausting fun for both of you. "Posthumandude" <posthumandude@aol.comremove> wrote > Who here practices grappling with their dog? Mines is a corgi that loves to > play, I wanna find a way for his playfulness to help my training. great fun; good training. I set rules for myself so the dog has a chance; they don't like joint locks much and I'm worried to hurt them, No fist blows; light slaps and pushes- nothing they don't like. If I press, and they get scared, I back off till it's fun for them again. Wonderful stuff- -- Chas 'It's Fighting, not Folkdancing!' http://www.chasclements.com http://www.kuntaosilat.net http://www.kuntaosilat.com/silatknifefighting.htm
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